Clutchless upshifting....

[R6owdlad]

How many of you do this?
Seems quite easy to me but what are the ramifications??

 

[ToastedBlue]

me and my last 3 bikes have done nearly 45k miles with no issues
it's perfectly all right if you're proficient at it
if it did they wouldn't sell bikes with electronic quickshifters
just make sure each change is positive and definitely don't do it changing down

 

[stevecbr]

Do it very occasionally on every bike i have owned, and never had problems, only seems suitable to do it when your really going for it, and dont want to loosen your grip on the bars! The majority of the time l use the clutch

 

[R6owdlad]

Do it very occasionally on every bike i have owned, and never had problems, only seems suitable to do it when your really going for it, and dont want to loosen your grip on the bars! The majority of the time l use the clutch

Yep
I only do it when I'm hanging on lol!

 

[loneranger]

helps with the old left hand aches.

 

[bingowatts]

Do it all the time, tho i must say , it's so much easier on my Thundercats as the gearbox is a peach. Both up and down the box, sounds just like iv'e got a quick shifter. Even do it in the works van.

 

[RipGroove]

Don't really see the point while road riding, I don't need to save milliseconds. Plus I've seen the damage it can do to the drive dogs on the gears and how a very small amount of damage can lead to problems.


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[carsicchris]

Rip Groove, don't see the point in saving milli-seconds ? Simons ecu flash Hmm!

 

[Stan09]

I do it. My mate who is a very good bike mechanic, told me it does not damage the gear box. He said it's the best way to change up, as it puts less strain on the gear box than using the clutch. But I use the clutch to change up from 1st to 2nd. Also I change down using the clutch.

 

[Pool Boy]

I do it. . But I use the clutch to change up from 1st to 2nd. Also I change down using the clutch.

Me too.
And I've recently found I can go down the box when coasting
I figure that as long as it's smooth, with no crunching, it's not doing any harm and it concentrates the mind on riding smoothly

 

[Clint Kingston]

I have done it both up and down on all my bikes for hundreds of thousands of kilometres with no ill effect, the sequential gear box is designed to do it. Recently fitted a quick shifter on the MT full throttle up shifts, very fun.

 

[Pool Boy]

I have done it both up and down on all my bikes for hundreds of thousands of kilometres with no ill effect, the sequential gear box is designed to do it. Recently fitted a quick shifter on the MT full throttle up shifts, very fun.

How big a job is it to fit the quick shifter ?
Always fancied one but been put off by the complexity of fitting what, for me, would be a toy as I'm not the quickest of riders so it's not going to make me into a Rossi or Lorenzo.

 

[Clint Kingston]

How big a job is it to fit the quick shifter ?
Always fancied one but been put off by the complexity of fitting what, for me, would be a toy as I'm not the quickest of riders so it's not going to make me into a Rossi or Lorenzo.

The H&M plus quick shifter is essentially plug and play.

1. remove seat
2. remove tank
3. plug the supplied harness inline with ignition
4. remove shift linkage
5. replace shift linkage with Pressure sensor and 135mm shift rod
6. decide where you want to put the control unit (it's very small so plenty of places you can put it)
7. rout and secure wiring
8. install tank
9. install seat
10. tweak pressure switch sensitivity and ignition cut off timing.

to use it just hold the throttle wide open and click up the gears. It takes some getting used to, for me even as someone who clutchless shifts it feels so unnatural at first to not blip the throttle. when you click up a gear the pressure switch cuts the ignition (in my settings about 0.065 seconds) giving you a very smooth and fast full throttle up shift.

 

[RipGroove]

Rip Groove, don't see the point in saving milli-seconds ? Simons ecu flash Hmm!

Haha I got the flash to smooth out my fuelling, the extra get up and go was just a bonus.


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[Triple Trouble]

How big a job is it to fit the quick shifter ?
Always fancied one but been put off by the complexity of fitting what, for me, would be a toy as I'm not the quickest of riders so it's not going to make me into a Rossi or Lorenzo.

We fit them with the ecu flash...!
Very quick and easy to install....!

 

[Triple Trouble]

The H&M plus quick shifter is essentially plug and play.

1. remove seat
2. remove tank
3. plug the supplied harness inline with ignition
4. remove shift linkage
5. replace shift linkage with Pressure sensor and 135mm shift rod
6. decide where you want to put the control unit (it's very small so plenty of places you can put it)
7. rout and secure wiring
8. install tank
9. install seat
10. tweak pressure switch sensitivity and ignition cut off timing.

to use it just hold the throttle wide open and click up the gears. It takes some getting used to, for me even as someone who clutchless shifts it feels so unnatural at first to not blip the throttle. when you click up a gear the pressure switch cuts the ignition (in my settings about 0.065 seconds) giving you a very smooth and fast full throttle up shift.

Or........
Buy one from us that goes through the ecu so the only thing that needs to be removed from the bike is the seat as it runs through the tip over sensor....!

 

[stofer]

Need quickshifter details

Hi Triple Trouble
I'm interested in the quickshift you mentioned.
Can you give more details?
Tnx.