OK Guys, re loading the MT etc, the panniers are spec'd at 8 Kg each, when loading heavy stuff goes at the bottom, Low COG etc, top box is rated at another 5 Kg does not sound a lot but you would be amazed how much crap you can get for 5 Kg.Yeah but isnt the balance of the bike upset a bit with all that luggage being so high and over the rear ?